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Human waste found in trendy boutiques a form of protest by looters (Louisiana)
wwltv.com ^ | 11/07/05 | Brett Martel / Associated Press

Posted on 11/07/2005 2:22:29 PM PST by Ellesu

When she noticed the human waste on the floor of the trendy women's shoe boutique she manages, Lindsay Foret suspected looters had soiled the store out of spite.

"I was like, 'This is horrible. There's brand new bathrooms and they couldn't even go there?"' Foret said. "I went back to the bathrooms and they were perfectly fine."

As she spoke to fellow merchants along trendy Magazine Street, on the edge of the Garden District, Foret quickly learned she wasn't the only one who found such unseemly messes while trying to reopen a looted store.

Around the city, merchants returning after Hurricane Katrina who expected their worst problems to include storm damage or stolen merchandise have found numerous examples of vandalism, some of it vile, that apparently was meant to upset store owners.

"I can confirm some stores were vandalized -- and soiled, to some degree," city police Capt. Marlon Defillo said. He was not sure if it was widespread and said he could not comment on motives, but he suggested a lack of running water may have been a factor at times.

Sociologists say it may speak to the anger of a disenfranchised segment of the population and how -- at least during the chaos that ensued shortly after the storm -- they reveled in ruling certain places they may have previously perceived as snobby or out of reach.

"It is asserting a kind of power," Tulane sociology professor Martha K. Huggins said. "People who have their house broken into often say they feel violated, and defecating on the floor is the ultimate way to violate somebody.

"People who've been marginalized and excluded from the economic system and social system and don't feel they have any stake, it's not surprising that some are going to behave in a way that shows they have absolutely no respect for and no stake in the system," she added.

Human feces was found in a number of stores around town, from the independently owned shops uptown to the chain stores at the upscale Canal Place shopping mall downtown.

"I was like, 'These animals,"' said Jack Sutton, who owns a fine jewelry store that was looted inside the Canal Place mall.

Sutton found his store had display cases smashed and broken well beyond what was necessary to steal the goods inside. Looters overturned furniture and dumped out boxes of files. They even drank champagne he kept in a small refrigerator, as if to celebrate. He did not find human waste in his store but saw it in several others in the mall.

"There definitely were toilets around," Sutton said.

Myron Goldberg, owner of M. Goldberg menswear store in uptown New Orleans, said those who broke into his store smashed open a gum ball machine and ground gum into recently refinished hardwood floors. "We had to get the wood floors redone," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: FECES; KATRINA; LOOTERS; NEWORLEANS
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1 posted on 11/07/2005 2:22:30 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu

They're animals. Period.
It's well past time to treat them as such.


2 posted on 11/07/2005 2:25:04 PM PST by polymuser (")
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To: Ellesu
Disgusting. :-P

On a related note, I have been told that some members of the US Army ritually "take a dump" in the shower before heading out on a mission. Any truth to this?

3 posted on 11/07/2005 2:26:05 PM PST by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: Ellesu
Human waste?


4 posted on 11/07/2005 2:27:57 PM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: polymuser
They're animals. Period. It's well past time to treat them as such.

My cat uses a litter box. Ergo, at least some animals are more civilized than the looters.

5 posted on 11/07/2005 2:28:13 PM PST by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: Ellesu

Not surprising at all when you consider the class of people who did it. Anger at being disenfranchised? Bullsh*t. Just trash leaving their waste behind. The person who called them animals was right. Human Garbage.


6 posted on 11/07/2005 2:28:31 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: thoughtomator

HAAHAAHAA!


7 posted on 11/07/2005 2:28:42 PM PST by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: TChris

Actually, one must have used your head...

Semper Fi


8 posted on 11/07/2005 2:30:06 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Ellesu
"Sociologists say it may speak to the anger of a disenfranchised segment of the population"

I am so sick of this kind of defense, it only makes these subhuman (and yes! I meant subhuman) animals think they can act thusly without retribution. Does anyone remember one of the Manson girls who did the same while murdering innocent people. These are the kind of filth we are hearing about! And some idiots prefer to blame society! Well I know it's an easy pun, but CRAP!
9 posted on 11/07/2005 2:30:20 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: Ellesu

They're probably upset about not getting their $2,000 debit card and are merely trying to express their, uhhhh, frustration. That's it. Where's the photo of Looter Dude? I bet he made a donation too!


11 posted on 11/07/2005 2:33:52 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Ellesu
who've been marginalized and excluded from the economic system and social system

Nobody has done anything to these people. They choose to be losers.

12 posted on 11/07/2005 2:36:19 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Calvin101

LOL!


13 posted on 11/07/2005 2:36:21 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: Ellesu
looters protesting...yeah ok

see how detached the MSM is to reality?
Oh,I see, next time there's a crisis and looters run rampant, why don't these reporters sit down and have a chat with them?..(here's a clue Clark Kent, leave your wallet at home that day)


Doogle
14 posted on 11/07/2005 2:37:55 PM PST by Doogle (USAF...7thAF ..4077th TFW...408th MMS..Ubon Thailand.."69",,Night Line Delivery..AMMO)
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To: Ellesu

Hi - I think we have a couple kids home from school posting here.
Anyway - New Orleans becomes more disgusting every day. Or is it the media reporting the ugly side only just as they do in Iraq?


15 posted on 11/07/2005 2:38:25 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Ellesu
Dey haf never been able to crap on anyting nice.

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16 posted on 11/07/2005 2:39:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: TChris; river rat
Hey TChris, not been around the military much have you?

The barracks belongs to the First Sergeant. Jarhead or Grunt, that First Shirt would have somebody's balls in his hands.

Not a good position for an LES to be in. Trust me on that one.
18 posted on 11/07/2005 2:40:50 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Ellesu

Boss wants to know why you took all the beer outta his hole.


19 posted on 11/07/2005 2:40:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Ellesu
Bullchit! I've been poor most all my life, there are a lot of places I cannot afford to shop. Heck even Belks is too expensive for me. I don't hold any store accountable for my low funds and certainly wouldn't stoop to loot and poop these places.

It's a lack of class not money that creates this kind of disgusting person.
20 posted on 11/07/2005 2:42:23 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: neutrino

"My cat uses a litter box. Ergo, at least some animals are more civilized than the looters."

I leave my dof at home 12 hours a day. Not once have I had to clean up a mess. Your comment is accurate.


22 posted on 11/07/2005 2:43:35 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: thoughtomator

LOL! You're confusing a waste human with a POS.


23 posted on 11/07/2005 2:43:47 PM PST by expatpat
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To: L98Fiero

"dof" = "dog" How can somone with as fingers as skinny as mine fat-finger a keyboard?


24 posted on 11/07/2005 2:44:37 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Ellesu

There is a church about 10 miles away from where I live that became an evacuation location for those fleeing New Orleans. Every room in the children's building had pee or poop in it. Don't tell me it's because they felt left out of society. These people are animals, plain and simple.


25 posted on 11/07/2005 2:44:54 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: PistolPaknMama
If only Heinekin (sp?) could go with this as an ad campaign. LD has pop fad ad potential unseen since "where's the beef?". Heinekin is prob enjoying a bump in sales as it is.

26 posted on 11/07/2005 2:45:43 PM PST by I see my hands (Until this civil war heats up.. Have a nice day.)
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To: PeteB570
Guess the incident was false or very isolated in nature.

It supposedly happened in Kuwait, with showers that were either used by multiple branches of the mil. or used by the AF and "tagged" by the Army guys.

I was told by a relative in the AF. Just wondered about it, since I had not heard of it before.

27 posted on 11/07/2005 2:45:47 PM PST by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: Ellesu
Absolutely disgusting!
28 posted on 11/07/2005 2:46:12 PM PST by LA Woman3 ("If you're constantly being mistreated, you're cooperating with the treatment.")
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To: Ellesu

The liberal utopia.


29 posted on 11/07/2005 2:47:48 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: Ellesu

Some people can't tolerate the fact that others possess or have earned more than they have; therefore, they want to destroy that which they can't have. For an illustration of the foregoing I need look no further than my car which is parked behind the complex at which I live. It is an older car, but still sleek, having recently had dents removed and new paint applied. I usually close windows and lock the car religiously. One night I neglected to close the windows on each side which had been open during the heat of the day (my air conditioning temporarily inoperative). During the night someone had put their hand through the four-inch space at the top of the window on each side and had run it along the headliner and molding, ripping the headliner out of the molding along the full length of the roof on each side of the car. No vendetta against me; it was totally anonymous. Only possible motive: I possessed something the vandal liked and lacked.


30 posted on 11/07/2005 2:48:12 PM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: L98Fiero
"dof" = "dog" How can somone with as fingers as skinny as mine fat-finger a keyboard?

I have a dof. He's a Freat Dane.

32 posted on 11/07/2005 2:49:36 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: TChris
Disgusting. :-P On a related note, I have been told that some members of the US Army ritually "take a dump" in the shower before heading out on a mission. Any truth to this?

thats a vicious lie started by the air force and marines... we dont have maid service so guess who cleans the toilets and showers in the ARMY?

33 posted on 11/07/2005 2:49:50 PM PST by Nat Turner (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME)
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To: Ellesu

""People who've been marginalized and excluded from the economic system and social system and don't feel they have any stake, it's not surprising that some are going to behave in a way that shows they have absolutely no respect for and no stake in the system," she added."


Again we buy into the oppression argument. Dont buy it - blacks know that whitey is intimidated by him screaming racist - but it doesnt hold water anymore. Blacks have made their bed and they need to lay in it. We need tough love for them, they need to held accountable for their actions.

Blacks continue to hate whites and segregation is worse than it has been in along time because we allow them to frame the argument. Blacks are overt in their hate and racism, these actions were done out of hate to suggest otherwise is ignore the facts and support further division in our society. All are equal and all should be held accountable for their actions not what some percieve as motive for their actions. To suggest such a thing sterotypes all whites as acting purposely to oppress and therefore suggest that many whites are racist - a claim that is contrary to the help and money that was given for victims here and everyhwere else.


34 posted on 11/07/2005 2:50:06 PM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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To: Ellesu
...defecating on the floor is the ultimate way to violate somebody."

Um, sorry, no. Defecating on the floor is the ultimate way to violate yourself, but little else. At that point you are a f**king animal. Anyone surprised?

35 posted on 11/07/2005 2:51:37 PM PST by ericthecurdog (Do you know what it means...)
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To: Ellesu
Sociologists say it may speak to the anger of a disenfranchised segment of the population

BS. They enjoy all the rights and privileges everyone else does - plus some.

36 posted on 11/07/2005 2:52:02 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: Ellesu
I knew a dude who defecated on the CEO's desk... right next to his letter of resignation.
37 posted on 11/07/2005 2:52:21 PM PST by johnny7 (What now? Let me tell you what now.)
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To: Graybeard58

"I have a dof. He's a Freat Dane."

Mine's a Faschund.


38 posted on 11/07/2005 2:52:25 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Graybeard58
I have a dof. He's a Freat Dane.

The people down the street from us have one of those. That's a hugh dof!

39 posted on 11/07/2005 2:55:06 PM PST by w_over_w (This tagline is blank, well, not actually blank but it would be if I didn't just tell you.)
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To: Ellesu
ANYONE who poops or pees on a floor (when there are bathrooms available) NEEDS TO BE INSTITUTIONALIZED!
40 posted on 11/07/2005 2:55:36 PM PST by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 yrs and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a $$ or minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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To: pepperdog

(Sociologists say it may speak to the anger of a disenfranchised segment of the population)

The only thing Sociologists and other -ists can do is rationalize and excuse abhorent behavior. This type of behavior will not stop until the population says: this is not acceptable and we will not put up with this crap (pun intended). We should also condemn their enablers such as those sociologists.


41 posted on 11/07/2005 2:57:09 PM PST by winner3000
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To: TChris

No, but another service stationed in a camp in Al Anbar regularly used the shower for a commode. That stopped after their senior NCO's were given scrub brushes and mops.

You don't have to believe me, but I was there.


42 posted on 11/07/2005 3:01:09 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: winner3000
Did you soil yourself?

Maybe...

43 posted on 11/07/2005 3:02:36 PM PST by AndrewB
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To: sasafras

I buy into it with a twist. These people are marginalized because there is no other way for them to be. They are excluded from the economic system because they can't produce anything. And the social system because they don't have manners. The problem I have is our education system no longer kicks ass. We need to bring back school master and give him a whip and the freedom to use it from Kindergarten through 12th grade. No more ebonics, no more broken English. No more slacking. We will beat it into them how to be civilized. We will beat education into them. They will know the three R's at a minimum. Only then, will you see the underclass diminish rather than grow. But perhaps this post is redundant because I am describing tough love that you mentioned. We beat you because we love you, now sit down, shut up, and open your books.


44 posted on 11/07/2005 3:03:24 PM PST by Jason_b
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To: PeteB570
You really have to wonder how some folks have survived this long.

Maybe CWII won't be such a bad thing after-all.
Kind of clean up the gene pool...

Semper Fi
45 posted on 11/07/2005 3:03:48 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: TChris

Not to say soldiers don't do stupid stuff now and again but it would be a very, very isolated event.

In the military somebody is in charge of everything. If one branch starts to have problems with another things tend to get placed off limits quickly.

At the very least some Senior NCO (Sergeant Major type) is going to have a few First Sergeants in for a chat. Shortly thereafter, as everybody knows, shit will roll downhill very quickly to the privates.

If the troops have enough time to come up with stuff like that then they will find other things to occupy their time. Lower ranks do not like to have their limited free time messed with and will police themselves very quickly.

The story may pass into unit legend but it sure will not be repeated.


46 posted on 11/07/2005 3:04:38 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Ellesu

"Marginalized?" "Disenfranchised?"

I don't know which is worse...the crap on the floor or the crap coming out of these "experts" mouths.


47 posted on 11/07/2005 3:04:44 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (I know my enemy. I have Cable TV.)
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To: sasafras
People who've been marginalized and excluded from the economic system

No where in that statement or in the article did I see race mentioned until you brought it up.

There are plenty of people of all races who are poor. Marginalized? I am not even sure that word has a meaning except for lib types.

48 posted on 11/07/2005 3:08:33 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Ellesu

"Sociologists say it may speak to the anger of a disenfranchised segment of the population"

Well, no.

For really smart people with really fancy degrees, sociologists can sometimes be really ignorant.

"Disenfranchised" is a word with a specific meaning. Its meaning is NOT "The MAN got me down" or "I'm poor, therefore I can be excused my lack of civility" or any analog thereof. It means "Denied the franchise (the vote), or any sundry trappings of citizenship".

Exactly how someone can be excused from a breach of conduct and law this egregious by the flutterings of soft-curricula PhD's is beyond me.


49 posted on 11/07/2005 3:12:02 PM PST by Monkey King
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To: Ellesu
Human waste found in trendy boutiques...........

The animals do that even without a riot or a hurricane

50 posted on 11/07/2005 3:14:01 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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