Talk:Andrew Jackson
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Modern Creeks and Jackson
Can anyone verify if this is true?
- Despite the treaty's nullification one year later by US Congress, it was nevertheless enforced by Georgia Governor George Troup(D). The experience was sufficiently painful many of today's Creeks will spell "andrew jackson's" name only in lower case and avoid using $20 bills.
It's an interesting anecdote if true -- but most rumors are also plausible, and it would be a shame to start an urban legend here. Collabi 00:51, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
I looked around and couldn't find any corrobation for this statement, so I commented it out for now. But I'd be happy to see it come back if someone has evidence of its truth. Collabi 04:34, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- I have actually heard that before (about the $20 bills), but the version I heard was that it was the Cherokees. Maybe it is just an urban legend. --JW1805 05:01, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
I can't speak to refusal to use the $20 bill, but here is an essay advocating removal of Jackson's picture from the bill. Native American's aren't too happy with the man.
http://americanindian.ucr.edu/discussions/jackson/index.shtml
- Vern Reisenleiter 02:29, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
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- Good link! Some of what is on that website is incorrect or facile moral posturing (especially as espoused by fake Indian/fake academic Ward Churchill), but it's a good example of the mythology surrounding Jackson and the American Indian. Culturally, we seem to need a villain to take the fall for the many injustices done to American Indians, and some people have chosen Jackson for this role. As always, however, reality is not as simple as the stories we like to tell. For example, although the website frequently quotes historian Robert Remini, it apparently does not mention Remini's final assessment of Jackson's removal policy: "He [Jackson] saved the Five Civilized Nations from probable extinction" (Andrew Jackson and his Indian Wars, p. 281). Such a conclusion flies in the face of modern mythmaking, or as Remini puts it: "And although that statement sounds monstrous, and although no one in the modern world wishes to accept or believe it, that is exactly what he did."
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- Something to keep in mind as we write about the legacy of Jackson's removal policy. --Kevin Myers 03:26, August 10, 2005 (UTC)
Jackson and Banks
I read in several places that Andrew Jackson was a slave trader in his youth.
- "Jackson hated banks, all banks. But he especially hated the Second Bank of the United States, chartered by Congress in 1816. The root of his hatred probably stemmed from his near ruin as a young businessman (land speculator, slave trader, and merchant)." [1]
- "Many presidents who owned slaves found it abhorrent to sell one, even if they needed the money. Lincoln observed that many slaveowners would not shake the hand of a slave-trader -- a man who bought and sold slaves for profit. But for some years Jackson made part of his living doing just that." [2]
IMO, if that's true, it should be written in his "early years" part. Bogdan | Talk 12:43, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Jacksonville, FL
Actually JACKSONVILLE Florida (Home of the NFL's Jaguars) was named after the state's first governor, Andrew Jackson. The town's name changed from Talla Palatka, to its English translation, Cowford, to its cuttern name of JACKSONVILLE. The city crest sports the General on a rearing charger.
- There is, incidentally, still a town in Florida named Palatka. It has a paper mill and a smell which is difficult to describe without becoming profane. Koyaanis Qatsi
Actually Andrew Jackson, the man who would become President was the 1st governor of Florida. He abhorred the state (I disagree, although he did not have air conditioning) and left as soon as he could.
Jackson's Honor Rank
Go to Talk:George Washington and look towards the bottom. Is Jackson #4?? If you don't know, then you may try to find out yourself using whatever Internet sites might be helpful. 66.245.68.140 23:07, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Re: Jackson
Andrew Jackson fought in the American Revolution at the age of 13.
Vandalism magnet
I've just reverted two incidences of vandalism - actually about five incidences, but two people - from US schools in the last half-hour or so. Any idea why this article seems to attract so much of it? It seems to be one of the worst offenders, not counting the "politically active" pages... Shimgray 18:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Jacksonian Era
This line was in the article when I encountered it:
Jackson became the symbol of an era in American history — sometimes called the Age of Jackson or the Jacksonian Era — an era seen as dominating the years between the American Revolution and the Civil War.
This suggests that the Jacksonian Era overshadowed the presidencies of Washington and Jefferson! I changed "American Revolution" to "War of 1812," which makes more sense. Funnyhat 20:19, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, definately. Revolution >> Federal Age >> Jacksonian Era >> Civil War/Reconstruction >> Guilded Age >> Progressive Era >> Great Depression >> World War II >> Cold War >> Now. --Bonus Onus 02:24, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)
Big Block of Cheese
Was there really a big block of cheese in Jackson's Whitehouse as per the West Wing Narrative? --BozMo|talk 15:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not sure of the narrative, but it does appear that he had one big block of cheese at a party. Here is a reputable source Wikibofh 15:39, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
It would seem consistent with his political style to have food in the whitehouse for the common man.
Assassination attempt
Edited details of this section based on Remini's biography. Jul 21, 2005.
New reference
Added Henry Adams, History of the United States during the Administration of James Madison
Changed William Weatherford to Peter McQueen. McQueen led at Ft. Mims — Adams, p.780
- Vern Reisenleiter 16:16, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
War of 1812
Some thoughts on changes
- Jackson was a Maj Gen at the start of the war
- Aborted move on Spanish territory in 1813
- He got his nickname Old Hickory on the march back from Natchez
- Wounded in a duel with the Benton brothers. Still recuperating at start of Creek War
- Vern Reisenleiter 16:33, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
The Duel
was over a horse race, not his wife. WillC 18:35, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- Source? Wikibofh 21:43, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
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- Would it be worth adding Jackson's stratagem for the duel? Basically, he waited for his opponent to make his shot (which was done in haste) before taking careful aim for his own shot. RentACop 22:36, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
