Talk:Louisiana
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- it would be nice if there was a timeline element as well..
Good job to whoever put the state quarter picture here. I'm wondering why it hasn't been done for other states that already have their quarter? It would be a nice addition. Just thinking . . . MattSal 00:54, Nov 25, 2003 (UTC)
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Is French an official language of the State
Length of river in state
This sounds incorrect:
- ... the Mississippi River, which traverses the state from north to south for a distance of about 600 miles and ultimately emptying into the Gulf of Mexico...
- Maybe this takes into account all the bends in the river, but as for the length it "traverses [in] the state from north to south", that sounds like it should be measured "as the crow flies" I think. DavidH 23:12, July 9, 2005 (UTC)
"Louisiane" or "La Louisiane?"
I thought the official French name for the state is "La Louisiane," but I'm not positive though. Funnyhat 03:24, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Largest City: N.O. or B.R.?
Regarding edit made on Sept. 2 by 70.80.127.149: Although New Orleans is practically empty now and many of those people are now in Baton Rouge, we must remember that the evacuation causing this population shift is only temporary. Only time will tell how many of these evacuees will actually stay in Baton Rouge, but until the New Orleans area is salvaged and we have a better idea of how many actually return to the city permanently, I think we should leave New Orleans as the largest city for now.
- Actually, many New Orleans residents have said they are NOT returning. Remember a lot of them also left for places like Houston, which cuts the New Orleans population even more. I would expect less than half of the 480,000 people from New Orleans to return. Baton Rouge will likely jump to over 320,000... CrazyC83 05:45, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
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- But, their stated intentions should not be construed as fact. At this point it is just conjecture. Simply because one is in a shelter in Baton Rouge and declares they won't return to New Orleans, does not make them a Baton Rouge resident. They can chose to settle anywhere. For sake of comparison, the Pocono Raceway declares that it is the 3rd largest city in Pennsylvania on race day. An amusing statistic, but not factual.
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- WP:NOT, Wikipedia is NOT a paper encyclopedia, we can react to changes in situations with the speed of a news organization, and we should. The official word is that currently, almost no one lives in New Orleans, it has been evacuated, and will remain empty for months as the effort to drain, clean, and rebuild the city takes place. That is the absolute bottom line. New Orleans is no longer the largest city, Baton Rouge is. One day that may shift back, but regardless BR is NOW the largest and our article should be dynamic enough to reflect that. Agriculture 16:04, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
- P.S., sign your freaking comments. Agriculture 16:04, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
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- A valid point, but just because a person is not physically in a city does not mean that they do not live there anymore. If I am vacationing in Hawaii that doesn't make me a resident of Hawaii. Although there are many evacuees who probably will not return to live in New Orleans, there are many people who will return as soon as the city is revitalized and are therefore still residents of New Orleans, even though they will likely not "live" there for several months. So officially, New Orleans is the largest city until we get a clearer idea of how many people will move back to New Orleans once it has been revived. Anyway, hopefully my latest edit to the article's sidebar will satisfy both sides. 24.162.95.111 04:51, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
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- Well done, your edit does indeed capture the best of both worlds. I think a round of applause is in serious order. Agriculture 05:00, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
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Not a territory
That article (http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/09/05/141028.php) was satire. JD 05:15, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
- (To Illinoisian and Agriculture: if you truly believe that article to be true, then I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I'd like to sell you.)
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- Teh intarweb would nevar lie to me!!! Illinoisian 18:27, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
Napoleonic Code and Civil Law Terms
Re this text: "Louisiana is the only state whose legal system is based on Roman, Spanish, and French civil law as opposed to English common law. Technically, it is known as "Civil Law," or the "Civilian System." It is often incorrectly referred to as the "Code Napoleon" or The Napoleonic Code. It is important to note that the Louisiana Civil Code and the French Civil Code, often referred to as the Napoleonic Code, came into existence at roughly the same time. Louisiana was never governed by the Napoleonic Code."
Well, see this article: Yiannopoulos, A.N., The Civil Codes of Louisiana (reprinted from Civil Law System: Louisiana and Comparative law, A Coursebook: Texts, Cases and Materials, 3d Edition; similar to version in preface to Louisiana Civil Code, ed. by Yiannopoulos), which notes: "The redactors of the Louisiana Civil Code of 1808 based codification on a variety of sources. They followed as a model preparatory works of the French Civil Code as well as the finished text of that code. The 1808 Digest contained 2,160 articles. 1,516 of these articles, about seventy per cent of the whole, corresponded with, and were based upon, provisions of the French projet du gouvernement of 1800 or of the Napoleonic Code. Three hundred and twenty-one articles, about fifteen per cent of the whole, were based upon other French statutes or upon French doctrinal works. Most of the remaining articles were based directly on Spanish materials."
Perhaps something should be mentioned here from this or similar sources to make clearer the role of the Napoleonic Code in the Louisina Civil Code. Also in this respect: there is a famous scholarly debate in Louisiana over whether the original La. civil code is "really" Spanish, or French: see, e.g., Pascal, Robert A. and Rodolfo Batiza, Tournament of Scholars: articles debating the actual sources of the Louisiana Civil Code of 1808--Spanish or French Law.
Finally, my own article A Civil Law to Common Law Dictionary is relevant for the discussion on La. civil law terminology.
Louisiana could also be known as the mixture of two well know British names Louise and Anna. Louise and Anna are in fact best friends orginating on the Isle of Wight. Such good friends they are they even went to Queen Mary University of East London. Where Anna is currently doing a degree she doesn't like, hopefully this situation will improve.
